A comment asking if i have any self respect, they referenced that i engage in watersports and how degrading it is.
Right, i like piss play, its perhaps odd that im quite happy to talk about this more than i am sex, and maybe odder still that i prefer being pissed on than i do having his cum all over me...im more hmm comfortable with it.
I dont see it as a big deal, although i appreciate its not everybodys cup of tea, i love the humiliation of it (although i do question, is something truly humiliating if its enjoyed?) but anyway yeah it does it for me, i especially love it when he has me on my knees, his piss rushing over me and then pushes me face down into the shower floor and has me lick it up (yeah it tastes awful).....but fuck i love degrading treatment.
A dictionary definition of degrading is: 'harmful to the mind or morals; to lower in character, quality, value, to debase'
Yes i do think it can be harmful, its all about context isnt it? pretty much all of what we do is about context, the way in which its done, the circumstances and how the parties involved feel about it.
For example im not very confident with sex, (better than i was) but nevertheless its an area in which im sensitive about, so if he were to say something even during 'play' like "you should be grateful im fucking you, because your useless, i get more satisfaction with my hand" it would hit me hard, it would hurt and play on my mind in a negative way, it certainly wouldnt boost my confidence in this area!
However, when im on my knees covered in his piss, he might say "look at you!, you filthy stinking cunt, covered in piss" i cant get my mouth around his cock quick enough, i dont know why im wired this way, i just am....the more degraded he makes me feel the more sexually responsive i am.
So its important to know each other well, to know what would be positive triggers but more importantly what would be negative, and like everything this is achieved through communicating, learning about each other.
It in no way means i have no self respect, if anything it makes me feel good about myself because im comfortable in the knowledge that when all is said and done he respects me, he loves and cares about me.....and he values me because i can take enjoyment from being degraded by him.
THIS! Context! it's so hard to explain! It's like - i could say I'm sooo into him humiliating me, but, on reading other's blogs I realise that it's certain things and words he uses very particular ways.
ReplyDeleteHe's very careful not to knock my physical appearance, for example, and I'm particularly sensitive about my cunt being tight enough (we have seven kids, so...) anything about me being fat or sloppy or a unsatisfying fuck would finish me off, and not in a fun way.
And, as you say, is it truly humiliating if you like it? Well.. for want of a better word I still call it humiliation... It's like, it produces that squirm, that feeling of him dominating me mentally and verbally, that feeling of being reduced - but in a fun/enjoyable/safe (just) way... Me flirting with danger and getting that rush, putting my foot over the edge of the cliff, but knowing he has me safe by the hand and won't drop me in. He'll just dangle me a bit, enough for me to get dizzy and high...
if that makes sense...
It makes perfect sense.
DeleteLike you i would not respond to well to having my physical appearance knocked, im not very secure in myself in that respect, it would do more harm than good.
Yep i still refer to it as humiliation even though im not so sure its apt as i dont find it humiliating (piss play in particular) im very responsive to it lol
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hey, if it works for you, then whoever doesn't like it can piss off, I say.
ReplyDeleteand yes, i think it can still be humiliation if you enjoy it. cos you're not enjoying the actions / events per se, but the humiliation that comes from enduring them.
lol yep it works for me and him.
DeleteI get what you mean about it still being humiliation however when it comes to piss play in particular i do enjoy it, i seek it out, i dont find it humiliating even though its something that tends to come under the humiliation 'bracket'...i think thats what makes humiliation so personal to the individual, as in what will humiliate one wont another.
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Great post. As mamacrow says, it's all about context. It's all about communication, and it's all about perception. What may be degrading and humiliating to one is not to another.
ReplyDeleteSome days, I'm just not in the mood for it. Usually if it's a bad day and my thought process is already negative. Ironically, that seems to be the times He pushes me the most. Aslso, my body reacts to it in ways like no other. My mind is still boggled by it, but i'm learning to enjoy and relish in those moments.
Now, if we weren't in the midst of play and He said more to me than just calling me His fuck pig. i would not be able to handle it well. There is something about being in the midst of play that my mind despises it yet knows it is just part of it all as He reassures me before and afterwards. Which in itself is another way i know it's coming, the way He speaks to me before we start.
i can't say i enjoy it, but i do get off on it, and have learned to really let myself go.
Yes agree completely its personal to the individual.
DeleteSometimes im not in the mood for it but that doesnt change the outcome lol
Im not sure i would enjoy it so much if i knew it were coming, but i wander if this is because we have been together long enough that its not needed, or rather i dont need to be 'prepared'.
Some i enjoy very much so hence why im not so sure its truly humiliating as i dont find it is, but other things do humiliate me.
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I enjoy it too. Many of my fantasies are even more humiliating/degrading than anything he has done to me. But when he pees on me, or makes me go in the yard while on a leash, well, it just does something to my head. I feel so low, so debased, reassured in my place, and grateful to him for that. It does make me turned on, also.
ReplyDeleteAhh yes i have fantasies that im not comfortable sharing here lol...im lucky though that he has made many of them reality.....a few did not live up to the fantasy!
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Still getting the good ones, I see.
ReplyDelete"when all is said and done he respects me, he loves and cares about me" Exactly!
lol, it was actually an email, i call him 'redemption' man coz he feels the need to save me! the funny thing is another blogger also gets emails from him which we realised when comparing notes lol
DeleteBut yes i can get my head around it because i am sure of how he feels.
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It's something we both take great enjoyment from as well. There is nothing better than being curled up in his arms after being degraded and humiliated, it's fulfilling for both of us and that what matters.
ReplyDeleteIt takes a great amount of self respect to admit to what makes you happy and seek it when its so taboo.
Yep, i still get buzzes much later on when we are in bed and cuddled up..knowing that only perhaps a few hours before he was treating me lower than he does the dog lol
DeleteThe thing is db, and i know its odd im happy to talk and blog about this sort of thing but sex no..hence why you will very rarely see a sex post here.
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I don't feel humilated during pee activities. I feel the intimacy much more than any kind of humiliation. I'm turned on by the idea of him making me do some things that are a little unpleasant, but not a lot of things. This one works for me. It's just between us and it's something a bit extreme that we can do that's safe and has no negative impact on my life. Some of the other things he wants me to do would have a very negative impact, so I won't do them.
ReplyDeleteYes!!!!! i dont find it humiliating, but intimate yes, very much so.
DeleteIm no so sure i would call it extreme although how does one define extreme lol
Im just very laid back about it..its pee..no big deal.
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brill post tori, and it is something Master and this girl hope to do when W/we are T/together again...smiles this girl doesnt have a problem with it at all, this girl also feels it is a very intimate act between Master and slave, shows they have complete control over one.....and when one is in that mindset they can handle the humiliating words that they are being called but once out of that mindset this girl couldnt cope with being called whore, fuck slut, as mamacrow said its all in the context that the words are spoken...but its the love and respect that they show to one after the play is over which also counts..
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DeleteI dont have a problem with it either, and yes i do think its very intimate, not humiliating at all!
It is all about the context.
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Great post Tori! It is all about context isn't it? Love what you said about knowing each other well and each other's triggers ... and that does only happen through communication.
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hi Roz
DeleteYes i think putting it in context of what it means to the people involved is what makes the difference, its no different to me liking a quick sharp slap across the face from him...but if someone else did it they would get a slap back lol
communication is such a biggie isnt it.
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ooooh, so much this! I love him tapping/slapping me gently on the face, but he's moved into this gently and been very sensitive to my feedback about it. Anyone else tries it and they'll be on the receiving end of all my karate training!
DeleteLike they ^ all said - you nailed it. It is context, and knowing each other, and where to push just right. I have never read the D side of this - and i would be quite curious - my husband has moved into this area slowly - i think he has to get his head around it as well - but in a different way.
ReplyDeleteIf i could gg i would get Master to write about it from his perspective...i might well try...but its unlikely he will lol
DeleteIt is so important to really have an understanding of what makes the person tick, their triggers in a positive and a negative light.
Exploring humiliation and degredation can be so much fun, intense but it also needs a lot of thought.
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I find it a turn on as well in the context of play. It has nothing to do with having self-respect. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks joey, yes absolutley self respect is not relevant.
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After I left my comment I realized there was something I wanted to add that's actually the thing about this that turns me on the most - the idea that my mouth is for his cock AND anything that comes out of it. That's hot to me. And the pee doesn't actually taste bad either. It's not yummy by any stretch, but it tastes like liquified very concentrated salty nuts, like peanuts or sesame oil. Or maybe I should say peenuts. I don't know if that's how all pee tastes, and I'll never find out, since I won't ever be tasting anyone else's pee.
ReplyDeleteIm ok with drinking it when he puts it down my throat..straight from the source as i call it lol, but i struggle when he does have me lick it up as im getting more of the taste..but yet i do love that i have to!
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Mine hasn't told me to lick up spills or such yet, which is good, because I don't think I could bring myself to do that. I'm not ok with licking things that aren't clean. My dirty feet have walked on my dirty floor that have been walked on by my dirty shoe bottoms that have walked on really dirty places, so . . . I could fantasize about him making me lick it off the floor, but it wouldn't work in reality for me. This is a fun topic :)
DeleteDefinitely not my cup of tea, but hey if it's yours then it's yours. No one has a right to tell anyone what's right or not for them. If you enjoy it then go for it I say
ReplyDeleteNope i fully appreciate that it isnt for everyone lol, but yep as you said if one enjoys it and its not causing any harm...go for it!
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Oh, I am so with you on this train, tori!
ReplyDeleteIts good to know im not alone...its great isnt it lol
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wow this one got some comment tori! This was a great post. I continue to be perplexed at the value judgements that some people feel they need to express (the self respect comment).
ReplyDeleteMy question is always well if you don;t like it / agree/ plays havoc with your sensibilities then why are you reading here? and why not just walk away and not return..clearly the blog is not for you!
People do love to rain on parades of consenting adults.
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It did, but im guessing some found it too much as i lost 3 followers lol
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Pee is a lot safer than choking, ass to mouth, or giving out credit card numbers, so I'll stick with pee. Hee.
ReplyDeleteYep would agree with you there lol, although i do love to be choked!
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